So I just received a ticket.  I was speeding,  trying to get to a bathroom, on my regular 1 hour commute from work.  The stretch I drive is without a bathroom stop for 45 minutes.  I was almost to the nearest stop when I was pulled for 70 in a 55.  I asked the trooper if they made concessions or exceptions for medical conditions.  He completely dismissed my question and wrote me a ticket.  I bet if he was about to soil himself he would be speeding too.  I support law enforcement but sometimes you run into one who's head barely fits underneath that big ass hat.

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State troopers are gonna give you one. 

Now a sheriff or local may have given you a break. 

But 15 miles over state is gonna give you one.. I woulda let loose while he was giving it to me. 

There has been many times I never made it. I just went back home. If it was in the way to work. Well. I called them. Not worth a 200$ ticket. Seriously. 

That sucks. I guess the main Issue for all of us is that there aren't enough decent public bathrooms in this world. I know the feeling, sometimes it's like we're on a rat race between different geographical points with toilet access - pretty degrading if you look at it. I'd speed too if I was in your position.

Not their problem at all...you are putting the public at risk by driving over the limit, they do not care why. It is not their job to ask you why...unless you have a bullet wound or are in labor or have a passenger in cardiac arrest they do not care (and even then)...

Your intestines are the last of their concerns. 

Sorry, but they have enough to worry about without taking into consideration everyone else's medical conditions...according to them, if you know your condition then you should have taken the necessary measures/precautions to deal with it or prevent it...if not, you should not be driving. 

Sharon

Wow Sharon,  you must be married to one.  Just so you know some of us have commute's to work to deal with.  I drive an hour one way and there is a 45 minute stretch where there is no bathroom at all unless you want to stop beside the interstate (and get a ticket for that as well).  This is a place to vent about conditions that we J-pouchers deal with,  which I did.  You would think you wouldn't be judged so harshly by someone who has to deal with the same issues.  Let's all hope you don't soil your car seat with that Karma.  Have a better day.

Sorry Dave, I did not mean to come off harsh or judge  but give you the other side of the argument.  And no my hubby not only isn't in the police force but a fervent anti-facisit. 

Just as a side note,  I travel 90mins by subway to work and then have another 25mins on foot. No toilets in the subway and no place to empty out my pouch. I leave before 7am.

I have no choice but to fast. If I want to keep working. So I do and have been doing this for 35yrs.

It isn't fair...sure but as my sister-in-law who is an elected official says...you gotta go when you gotta go.

She drives 2hrs each way sitting on a triple folded towel over a blue pad. Keeps a 2nd towel over her lap. 

Not ideal but at 73 she isn't ready to retire.

You gotta go when you gotta go.. .are adult pads an option?

Sharon 

 

I've had this happen multiple times. I've gotten tickets and not gotten tickets. I've almost gotten tickets for going on the side of the freeway multiple times. Years ago I got a card from the Ulcerative Colitis foundation that says I have a medical condition that requires a restroom and every place i stop at to use the restroom, let's me use theres. But the times I've had a cop pull behind me while I'm going on the side of the road, the most common response is a laugh. I've also s%$t my pants while the cop was going to give me a ticket and they let me go. I think the issue is anyone could use it as a excuse. The cop doesn't know if it's true or not. Cops are lied to everyday. It's all how you handle it and address it. I've had people driving me and they get pulled over because they dont want want me to have a accident in there car and there freaking out at the cop while I've jumped out and gone right there. The cop gave my "friend" a ticket for speeding and then told him he was giving him a ticket for being a a$%hole. This ways YEARS ago and many things have changed. 

I guess my only point is we have all been there and it happens. 

Man it sucks but they are always gonna give you a ticket. When I was bad I would carry an extra set of pants,boxers,socks and shoes. Also a pack of wet wipes a towel and a couple of garbage bags. If I had to pull over I’d open both doors hide between them and let fly into a garbage bag fuck it. I could care less if anyone sees fuck em. 

Generally speaking there is no exception to motor vehicle traffic safety laws for medical conditions experienced during driving unless it is a sudden and unanticipated medical emergency. In cases where you have fecal incontinence and knew about it ahead of time, the defense is never going to fly because there are things you can do to address the issue apart from speeding and jeopardizing the safety of yourself and other on the roads.

I am an insurance defense attorney and have had numerous motor vehicle cases in which the sudden and unanticipated medical emergency defense was litigated. Usually in cases where accidents and injuries happened.

In one case my client had an epileptic seizure and violently rear ended another motor vehicle resulting in a man suffering serious neck injuries. I initially asserted the sudden and unanticipated medical emergency defense. However, when I got my client’s medical records they not only showed she had stopped taking her prescribed seizure meds, because she “felt fine”, but that there had also been a long lapse in time since her doctor had been spoken to or even been consulted about her condition. I didn’t feel like I could prove the defense because the last order she got from the doctor was to continue to take the meds (and not go off them because she “felt fine.”) She had not gotten his authority to do so, plus she did have a known history of seizures.

Another case in which I couldn’t prove the defense involved a 77 year old man who violently crashed his vehicle into another car before it careened off the roadway and into a stone wall, causing the vehicle to burst into flames and leading to my client’s death. Seconds before the collision, two eyewitnesses reported that my client’s vehicle was “weaving and meandering between lanes as if it was driverless”. Heart medicine was found in his car and he was in on his way home from an appointment with the cardiologist. My theory was that he had a cardiac event which rendered him unconscious at the wheel of his vehicle. Unfortunately, however, when I took the depositions of the witnesses neither one could say that he was slumped over at the wheel or unconscious. They didn’t get a clear look and also couldn’t testify that he was steering the vehicle. I then deposed the medical examiner whose autopsy report noted significant congestive heart disease and blunt trauma from the accident while not specifically listing the cause of death as due to one or the other. I tried to get him totestify that my client would have been unconscious before impact, but unfortunately his opinion was the opposite, based on the amount of blood pumped into the man’s Peritoneal cavity. His opinion was that, without a doubt, my client’s heart was beating normally upon impact and collision for that volume of blood to be present in the peritoneal cavity. He could not testify that with reasonable medical probability a medical event had rendered my client unable to steer or operate his vehicle.

I did have one case where I proved the sudden and unanticipated medical emergency defense and got judgment in favor of my deceased client. I represented his Estate. The client was a truck driver in his early 60s whose truck crossed the center line and head on collided with multiple vehicles, causing significant personal injuries to persons in those vehicles. The client died as a result of cardiac arrest sustained during or before the accident. I deposed several eyewitnesses who testified that before my client’s truck lost control and crossed the center line, they saw him slumped unconscious at the wheel and not steering the truck. The autopsy report also indicated very significant cardiovascular disease and my client was actively treating for a heart problem. Based on the eyewitness testimony I was able to prove that a medical event rendered my client unconscious unexpectedly, although he was taking all meds he was prescribed and going to doctors and actively treating his heart disease. The Court agreed with me that he was rendered incapable of driving by virtue of a legitimate sudden and unanticipated medical emergency, which in fact also resulted in his death.

These defenses are hard to prove in Court. If the emergency isn’t sudden or unanticipated or the defendant’s own negligence created the need for the emergency, it’s not going to fly. You may also piss off a jury or Judge with the defense especially if the client comes across as an excusy or unaccountable for behavior that can be viewed as less than responsible and this in turn could blow up an award. I have seen it happen and last thing you want to happen is the insurance money isn’t enough and your assets are exposed because a jury hated your explanation.

 

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