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I am so frustrated with the medical system and the need to have a separate doctor for everything. I just moved across the state and am in the process of getting established at all new doctor's offices. This is something I just dread. It is such a hassle making appointments, finding childcare, waiting in the office and then going through the process interviewing a new doctor. And it is especially difficult when you have a medical history as long as mine.

At first I was having good luck. I found a good GI who referred me to the surgeon in the area who does the J-Pouch surgery. He indicated that once his patients have surgery, it is standard practice that the surgeon follow their cases so he didn't see why mine would be any different. That is how my case was going to be followed previously so I was comfortable with this approach. So I met with the surgeon and we discussed the plans for follow-up. He also recommended that I have my incisional hernia repaired in the next year or so. I am comfortable with his reasoning and his plans for follow-up. Great so far.

So then it was on to finding a family physician. My husband had already seen someone for his cholesterol and he liked her so I also made an appointment. I went through my medical history with the nurse and that is where we got to the first hiccup. Of course I explained the history of UC and total colectomy and J-pouch surgeries first. She wanted to get records for my most recent colonoscopy. I told her that this didn't show much other than I had UC and that she probably wanted the pathology records from the hospital where they removed the colon as this showed the extent of displasia that I had. Of course this threw her for a loop and she had no idea what to do with that as it wasn't on her tick box checklist. After several more minutes of explaining she said she would just ask the doctor.

So enter the doctor. Mainly I wanted to talk to her about whether we needed to be doing anything special to monitor my bone health as I had been on steriods for over 20 years and am concerned about the damage it may have done. I was thinking she would probably refer me to an orthopedist. So again I explain my history of UC and surgery. I explicitly said I had a total colectomy and construction of a J-pouch out of my small intestine. I told her I saw a GI doctor who referred me to a surgeon for follow-up on the pouch. She then argued with me that I needed to be still seeing a GI doctor for my ulcerative colitis and as the one I had seen didn't want to follow me she would recommend some good GI doctors. Hello? I don't have UC- no colon remember? So I remind her of this and she gets a confused look at first and then says "OH, that right". Oh, that's right? She also didn't agree with the surgeon that I should have my incisional hernia repaired and since she didn't know much about the surgeon she was going to check around for a good one and wanted to know if I was open to going out of town for surgery. For a hernia repair? Uh, well no. I would think if the guy can successfully do a J-pouch surgery he should be able to handle a hernia repair. Plus I had already explained he had offered to send me to general surgeon for a second opinion for the hernia but I told him I only would be comfortable with someone who had experience with J-pouchers as there could be adhesions and such he might need to deal with.

So I left with no resolution on the bone concerns as her only response was she thought I probably needed a DEXA but the insurance wouldn't cover it because I was too young and didn't have any unexplained fractures. No referal either- just instructions to eat high calcium foods. She also ran bloodwork for calcium, iron, and B-12 as she was concerned I wasn't absorbing nutrients, however I don't have loose stools and I have NO trouble gaining weight so that probably wasn't necessary either, but I figured it wouldn't hurt.

I don't expect most doctors and certainly most nurses to understand the J-Pouch. I realize it is not common and it takes a specialist to follow it. But come on- shouldn't they understand basic anatomy? And more importantly- shouldn't they stick to their areas? If the GI doctor and GI surgeon agree on an approach why am I getting flack from a family physician who doesn't even understand that I don't have a colon anymore?

So back to square one in finding a QUALIFIED family physician to follow my general care. And I will be out my copay and another portion of my deductible. And I still need to find an OB/GYN.
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I've read your post, and all I can say is that I agree. In my experience, the vast majority of doctors I have seen are clueless about the j-pouch--many were in fact even clueless about the ileostomy. I even once saw a GI (granted he was an intern who was taking my history while my then regular doc was seeing to something else) who didn't quite grasp pouch function and seemed puzzled that I had no colon and wasn't having UC flares. I believe he thought I might have had a colonic j-pouch. Anyway...

As for general care, it's a little more difficult. As of this past year, I am still my GP's only patient with a j-pouch. Initially she handled me with kid gloves and although she has made an effort to learn about the pouch, a few times she has asked me questions or told me things that make me believe that despite the fact I've had my pouch going on 5 years and have been seeing her the entire time, she still lacks basic understanding of how the pouch functions. Last year, when I told her I was having between 4-8 bms a day, she practically freaked out and wanted me to see the surgeon immediately and even hinted at my possibly requiring rehydration. Meanwhile, I'm thinking 4-8 is pretty darn good. So... *LOL* However, she does listen and I have taken the time to gently educate her when she asks questions. She's been my GP since I was 15, long before my UC diagnosis, so we have a longstanding relationship and I really don't want to find another doctor at this point.

But I loathe when I have to go to clinics (i.e. a couple times over the years when I thought I might have strep throat), when my GP is not available, and then painstakingly go through my history and the pouch, etc. Thankfully this is not very often.

Interestingly enough, it turned out to be my OB/GYN who had the most knowledge of the pouch and I was actually quite impressed with how much she knew. I also got the impression she had had patients with the pouch before. So rest assured, there ARE definitely doctors out there who have both knowledge and experience. Finding them, however, is another matter entirely.
Wow...that is a bit worrisome. Maybe the doctor incorrectly thought they were dealing with the "average" or "below average" patient who doesn't have any idea what has been done to them or what meds they are taking? But once you start talking to them, they should be able to figure it out! Telling them "maybe you want the pathology report that shows the displasia"...well, they should get a clue. Next time you should start throwing out phrase like "ileo-anal anastasmosis" and that will really throw them!

I'm really really new to this whole thing (just colectomy so far) and I'm already running into the fun explanatory things. I have a sheet I need to fill out for a Rheumatologist and it's asking things like "do you have diarrhea", "blood in stools?", etc. I have a brand new end ileo and am still pushing UC stuff out my remaining rectum. This should be a fun appointment Smiler. I have to admit, that I've been lucky so far in that I've run into people who either knew about jpouches beforehand or picked up on the jpouch idea rather quickly.

I'm glad you found a jpouch surgeon to work with you. They are so few and far between! You will have lots of PCP's to pick from..well..once you wade through them. Can you ask your surgeon if he knows anybody? Good luck on your search!
Completely agree!!!

For 23 years while I had my j pouch, I can't tell you how many times I had to explain, in detail, what a j pouch was. It's very rare to encounter medical staff that have any knowledge at all about it. I now have a K pouch, which is even more rare, and fully expect to face a world fully of "what's a K pouch?". My darling Sharon told me I have to become the educator, and it's true, I probably know more about it then most doctors, and just telling my friends about it (who are all health care professionals) has showed that you have to be the educator. I know several web links I can refer people to, it's just easier then sounding like a broken record. When I got my k pouch in June, I tried to update my MedicAlert file, but there was no choice for a K pouch, I had to describe it, and send them a link so they have it on file!

Cheers,
Eric Big Grin
I just changed Obs/gyn because my latest retired (they are all retiring and not being replaced)...so when she examened me post initial interview she had a shock...something was missing Big Grin Red Face! I could tell that she was looking, checking and sort of trying to see if it had migrated up somewhere else Eeker but in the end she just gave up and asked me where I had put my A-hole???!
I told her that I didn't have one. She didn't see an outside bag and was a little put off...so where do you 'evacutate' to? I finally uncovered my stoma and sort of had to show her....not sure if she really understands it but she is better than a doctor I met who litterally told me that 'that is impossible' when I said that I had a K pouch that is made out of my own intestines and evacuates through a tube!
Yes, we have to be prepared to explain everything in details and worst case senario, carry around a data key with our file, scans & IRMs, tests etc...yup, we need to be responsible for our own health care.
Sharon

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