Restroom visits

I know this is not the greatest topic in the world to discuss, but hey we all have to do this, some more than others. I'm just wondering for those of you that feel good, and lead as normal as a life as possible with your jpouch, how frequently do you have to visit the restroom on a daily basis?

I know there are some folks on here that have better experiences than others, and have a normal daily routine/regimen they do.

I guess what I'm looking for is for those of you that generally have no issues, and consider yourself to have a healthy pouch, what is your regular/routine number of visits to empty your pouch?

Thanks,

Diesel

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It all depends on what and when I eat.  Usually after dinner I am in the loo 2-3 times within 2-3 hours of the meal.  There is only a very slight sense of urgency.  If I have salad or fresh fruit I will need to go sooner.  I consider myself completely bowel healthy.  I work full time in pediatric critical care and do 10,000 steps in a 12 hour shift.  I play in a pipe band and do parades and shows.  (No large meals prior to those.  A granola bar will do).  I love to travel and am so happy with my pouch.

I am 5 months post takedown. I go about 6 times a day now. Morning first thing then around 2-3 pm. Once in the evening and twice before I hit the bed. Once in night during I sleep. It depends on how much I eat. If I overdo I'd one extra visit. My surgeon said it'll come to 2-3 times a day thats what I am trying for.

I'm just short of 4 years since my takedown and my toilet habits are so infrequent I rarely notice; even as I type, I can't remember whether or how often I've used the toilet today.

A couple of days after takedown surgery, my Bowel Movements were 3 to 4 times per day, not every day and it did vary.

I use to say; on avarage, 3 to 4 times per day but never less than 2 and very rarely more than 5.

Where as now and only  realising when prompted due to your post; my BM are less and no matter how hard I try to remember, I just don't know; I don't even recall using the toilet at all today.

I eat absolutely anything and without issues, although poridge oats, does make a difference and within maybe a hour of eating it, I need the toilet; boiled eggs has the same effect but only late at night ?

Food intake must obviously make a difference to our output and although I'm roughly 14lbs heavier than I've ever been, I don't eat that often and I guess this must make a difference; although, I'm not under weight either, as I currently weigh roughly 230lbs.

 

Yeah eggs at night make me go for one visit too and thats pretty loose. But I think the protein and nutrient added balances out. Its essential when you are hitting gym 6x a week you just cant do without boiled eggs atleast I cannot. Even excess dairy adds some extra visits. I try to avoid it but then again I have 2 cups of milk tea that does loosen the stool a bit. 

I am nearing my 9th year post takedown.  As most have mentioned, frequency is dependent on how much I eat and what I eat.  Most days I’d say I go 3-4 times.  I don’t typically eat breakfast & some days I only use toilet 1-2 times (unless dinner contained lots of fiber or spice) later in day, after dinner.  

All I can say is that I'm jealous of everyone's # of bathroom visits.
I'm at the far end with - 10 visits per day + 2 at night.
After 4 years of daily experiments on diet / pills / supplements / behavioral changes, I can't get these numbers to go down.
Even though this situation is depressing and annoying, I don't let it interfere with my activities and I live a good life.

strange posted:

RAJ..... When hitting the gym  6 X a week, what is your goal ? 

Bro I am trying to compete at some stage in my life under naturals category. For obvious reasons steroids are out of question to add gains. Even with colitis I had  65kgs lean muscle mass at one point. So I think I can get back to that point again now that I can eat all the good foods.

PS : I currently weight 56kgs up from 43kgs post takedown. So the progress seems good so far.

I'm roughly 14 months post takedown and still trying to get frequency below 10 in 24 hours. I've been battling chronic cuffitis though. Canasa helps with the bleeding and urgency but only slightly on the frequency. I'm also doing pelvic floor therapy. Fun times.  It's amazing what we j-pouchers go through. I do miss my colon and the freedom once enjoyed when I was in remission.  After 18 years of UC and surgeries/recoveries, I've now got 2 cm of cuff to deal with. Can't wait for the day--and I'm still optimistic--that my day won't be planned around having a bathroom nearby.

Sorry for your issues, and I hope you get some relief soon! I believe it does get better in time, especially when you figure out how your pouch reacts to what you eat, as I found it was trial and error for a while. I experienced the same issues with pouchitis and cuffitis as well, and stayed on Cipro. I started taking tablespoons of raw Manuka honey, and was able to come off the antibiotics. I eat a couple of spoonfuls in the morning when I get up, and wait 30 minutes before I eat, and eat a couple more before bed as well.  Read up on it, as it has lots of benefits I believe!  I will be 3 years post takedown in April of this year. thanks

 

Raj posted:
strange posted:

RAJ..... When hitting the gym  6 X a week, what is your goal ? 

Bro I am trying to compete at some stage in my life under naturals category. For obvious reasons steroids are out of question to add gains. Even with colitis I had  65kgs lean muscle mass at one point. So I think I can get back to that point again now that I can eat all the good foods.

PS : I currently weight 56kgs up from 43kgs post takedown. So the progress seems good so far.

I've never competed and my experience of weightlifting was purely to bulk up and look defined and judging by your response, you're probably more knowledgable in regard to exercise and working out than I am.

 However, I'm a firm believer of a rest day between sessions; to allow muscles to recover and develop, hence my original question.

 

My workout split is chest+tricep/back+biceps/legs+shoulder. Rest is absolutely essential so I hit those part after a gap of 2 days. It takes 2 days/48hrs for a muscle to recover. Also Sundays are a rest day. I keep macros balanced pretty much. 1 scoop of whey isolate and anywhere between 6-8 egg whites to get all the protein. I also consume dairy and nuts for fats. Rest carbs are easy to get. 

 

Raj posted:

My workout split is chest+tricep/back+biceps/legs+shoulder. Rest is absolutely essential so I hit those part after a gap of 2 days. It takes 2 days/48hrs for a muscle to recover. Also Sundays are a rest day. I keep macros balanced pretty much. 1 scoop of whey isolate and anywhere between 6-8 egg whites to get all the protein. I also consume dairy and nuts for fats. Rest carbs are easy to get. 

 

You're in a different league to myself; my workout, although currently, not participating in any form of fitness routine or training, were a combination of strength training and endurance with a desire to bulk up, look more defined and stocky but not to the extent of Arnold Schwarzenegger or the likes.

  I would hit the free weights three times per week, plus self defence training, both with a rest day in between.

I dont know man. Its just that I dont feel too much of a difference with the pouch except for the fact I have to go like 5-6 times a day. But honestly I was already doing that in UC so now its great. I am mot trying to be Arnold like. Its just a dream like many other so I just go there workout and come back with dedication. Also my workout sessions are smaller as I am doing 6x a week. I workout for like 45-50 mins against guys with 3-4 day splits who workout for upto 1.5-2 hrs. I believe in intensity and lesser rest between sets in other words hypertrophy.

Raj posted:

I dont know man. Its just that I dont feel too much of a difference with the pouch except for the fact I have to go like 5-6 times a day. But honestly I was already doing that in UC so now its great. I am mot trying to be Arnold like. Its just a dream like many other so I just go there workout and come back with dedication. Also my workout sessions are smaller as I am doing 6x a week. I workout for like 45-50 mins against guys with 3-4 day splits who workout for upto 1.5-2 hrs. I believe in intensity and lesser rest between sets in other words hypertrophy.

Hey, I wasn't criticising.

You describe the same desire as myself when I started weight lifting.

 Although, your response to my initial question and additional responces, which mention, lean muscle mass, keeping macros balanced, whey isolate and consuming 6-8 egg whites for protein, puts you in a different league to myself.

 We may also have differing philosophies on muscle development and maybe for differing goals.

 My opinions can easily be absorbed by someone new to weight lifting and body building but not normally by an experienced body builder like yourself.

I'm a believer of targeting specific muscles or muscle groups and working hard until muscle exhaustion, maybe on the third set, depending on level of strength already achieved; but followed by a rest day in between sessions and weekends off.

 I've never followed a specific diet for muscle mass or consumed additional protein, I've allowed my level of activity and workouts to dictate my appetite.

 Yes, I've ensured to eat the obligatory good foods, such as fish, chicken and red meats but I don't believe a fitness regime should dictate my diet. 

Also, It's my belief, that when working different muscle groups on alternate days, the muscle groups worked the previous day are not achieving complete rest and recovery.

 

 

I'm sorry to the OP for hijacking your thread.

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