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Finally. I have some random questions though.

Are the stoma bags for end and ileo the same or different? 

Once my colon is gone, will I no longer be lactose intolerant or do I still need to watch what I eat in that regard?

And the most embarrassing question for last. Will I be able to pass gas again with a J-pouch (after some recovery obviously)?

Thank you all in advance. 

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Lactose intolerance generally happens in the small bowel. The enzyme that digests lactose (lactase) is in short supply for one reason or another. It doesn’t tend to improve after colectomy, unfortunately. 

Some of us can pass gas safely, and others of us never trust a fart. You’ll find out which group you are in.

I believe I used the wafer also.  The one thing different with the loop was that initially there was a bridge, that made it a little more difficult to place the bag over the stoma.  I believe this was removed about 2 weeks after surgery.  Once that was removed, things got easier.  I had the loop for 8 weeks and the end for 7 months.

I can pass gas safely so long as pouchitis is under control. As for the bag question, I had a bag in 1992 with the loop ileostomy so any information I could provide is out of date. As Scott said, colon removal isn’t going to solve any lactose intolerance issue because the colon isn’t involved in that aspect of the digestive process.

I know it seems overwhelming right now. You can do this. One of my favorite resources for learning and support was the online ostomy support group on www.inspire.com. It’s just like the j-pouch forum, but everyone has a stoma.

Check it out. Go to www.inspire.com and search for “ostomy” and you’ll see the group. Or just Google “ostomy forums.” You’ll see several forums to choose from. Get on and start reading!

 

Andrina, a wafer is just a ring that sits around the stoma and can allow for a better seal.   Not sure how people get by without one to be honest, I always needed one.  Don't think I was very good at applying the bags, they either fell right off or leaked, apparently I just hadn't found the right products, different products have different glues and some work better with different skin types. 

 

Fortunately, i only need the bags for 12 weeks    then I switched to the pouch... prefer the pouch.

In my opinion; ConvaTec bags and waffers are by far the best products/appliances for your ileostomy, whether a temporary loop or not

  Prior to discoverying ConvaTec, I tried every brand/product out there.

I had my end ileostomy for many years and during that time, I evaluated many stoma brands/products and new appliances and each and every one failed one way or another, either within hours, days or weeks and I always reverted to ConvaTec appliances.

i did experinced one or two manufacturing issues with ConvaTec appliances, which were always quickly addressed.

ConvaTec products and their Delivery Service (here in the UK it's AmCare) are in a league of their own and no other ostomy brand or appliance comes close.

Salts Stoma Collars are essential too, which affix over and around the stoma to ensure the stoma output goes into the colostomy bag without seeping under the waffer/base plate and eroding your skin.

To keep things snug and help conseal the colostomy bag; acquire Comfizz high waist unisex boxer shorts, similar style as cycling shorts (available on NHS prescription in the UK).other brands are available but Comfizz are far superior.

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I had ileo for 9 months last year & the wafer was a must. I also needed stoma powder because I have really sensitive skin. The key to the fit is make it tight with no room for leaks. I wore a stoma belt to prevent drooping(drag) which also kept it tight & in place. The stoma is big at first then settles down in a few weeks. Do have the prescription in place with the supplier. My order was held up many times because of mis communication with the  prescription  & a couple of times I was almost out of supplies.  I don’t understand why the suppliers don’t allow for practice/mistakes. I liked the Sensa Mio- I cut my own wafer to fit my stoma. I changed wafer/bag in the morning every 3/4 days before any food as it was the quietest. You start to notice wafer getting lose & it’s time to change. I bought a pregnancy support band to wear over the appliance so I had a smooth fit under clothes & kept it snug to my body.

Good luck

Forget powders to protect the skin around your stoma; apply Cavalon Barrier spray, then ilex Protectant Paste onto the skin all around the stoma prior to affixing the appliance and before any skin issues occur.

Also, cutting a flange/wafer to size of the stoma is yesterdays technology, ConvaTec offer a mouldable flange/wafer, no cutting whatsoever; just use a ConvaTec Size Template card over the stoma to ascertain the closest size and order appropriate mouldable flange/wafer

In my experience, you’ll use many products and combinations until you find what works best for your stoma and body type. As others have said, call the major manufacturers for free samples. Many of these companies have a chat line—a stoma nurse or product rep—so you can discuss your issues and they’ll try to set you up. Lots of trial and error. It took me 5 months to finally put together a system that was—for me—comfortable, convenient to empty and change, leak resistant, and protected my skin. I know it seems overwhelming right now but you have no choice but to engage, learn, and get back in control to maintain your sanity. 

Jfill21 posted:

In my experience, you’ll use many products and combinations until you find what works best for your stoma and body type. As others have said, call the major manufacturers for free samples. Many of these companies have a chat line—a stoma nurse or product rep—so you can discuss your issues and they’ll try to set you up. Lots of trial and error. It took me 5 months to finally put together a system that was—for me—comfortable, convenient to empty and change, leak resistant, and protected my skin. I know it seems overwhelming right now but you have no choice but to engage, learn, and get back in control to maintain your sanity. 

This maybe so, but start with the best first, ConvaTec

No other brand or products comes close or compare.

From my experience, ConvaTec pouch system are as good as perfect.

Two piece systems

Mouldable flange/wafers .... No cutting necessary.

Convex flange/wafers

Self adhesive pouches

Click On coupling pouches

Various capacity closed pouches



During my time usung ConvaTec appliances, I only had one or two quality control/manufacturing issues.

Where as with products from other recognised brands, they always failed, some within hours.

Once a product fails, confidence in that product is lost.

The issues I experienced with ConvaTec products were relatively minor and very quickly resolved and didn't result in serious leakage or complete failure.

I hated my life with a Stoma, especially just after the removal of my bowel and some of the products provided by the Hospital compounded my feelings, but the ConvaTec products made my life with a Stoma all the more bearable.

I felt so secure wearing the ConvaTec 2 piece appliance and my Comfizz boxer shorts that I was able to complete day to day activities without the constant fear of leakage, which I was unable to do when using ostomy products from any of the alternative brands.

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