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@Scott F posted:

I got it six years ago. I can’t believe I waited that long. Mine includes a warm air dryer, but it doesn’t move enough air to dry things quickly, so I blot the bulk of the water up first with toilet paper.

Wow cool! That definitely saves on buying wipes and buying skin barrier cream lol. I might have to think about that. I have been using wipes for almost 6 years, I hear great things about bidets- so far I have not heard any complaints.

I use wipes and still get butt burn- do you guys use both wipes and skin barrier creams?

You’re probably suffering from butt burn as a result of chapped skin caused by the wet wipes and wiping so often. 

 The diaper rash type butt burn is caused by the acidic leakage, especially during sleep when the leakage sits on the skin for a longer time before it’s noticed; thus, causing skin erosion.
The same can occur.around the stoma due to leakage, even without wiping.

In your case, if you’re not suffering from leakage but wiping often; it’s kind of similar to a sore ,red nose when suffering from a cold; a combination of a running nose and wiping with a tissue, resulting in chapped skin and soreness.

When cleansing after a BM, rather than or before you use wet wipes, maybe it’s best to use dry toilet paper, without wiping and allow the paper to soak up the liquid output that’s on your skin; and if necessary, follow this by blotting the area dry with toilet paper or ideally paper hand towel, the type use in public washrooms, (although the hand towels not suitable to soak up output; I speak from personal experience.)

 

When I first got my J pouch, I always used wet wipes; use to buy huge boxes to save money but as time passed, without a conscious decision, I just gradually stopped using them.; I don’t use barrier cream either 

I was of the understanding that the butt burns caused after takedown, when the pH of the stool fluctuates before adjusting (at least in most patients), is due to the stool being too alkaline rather than too acidic. In other words, the pH is greater than 7. Although once butt burn starts due to alkaline stools, eating acidic foods (like vinegar) is certainly unlikely to help matters.

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@strange posted:

You’re probably suffering from butt burn as a result of chapped skin caused by the wet wipes and wiping so often. 

 The diaper rash type butt burn is caused by the acidic leakage, especially during sleep when the leakage sits on the skin for a longer time before it’s noticed; thus, causing skin erosion.
The same can occur.around the stoma due to leakage, even without wiping.

In your case, if you’re not suffering from leakage but wiping often; it’s kind of similar to a sore ,red nose when suffering from a cold; a combination of a running nose and wiping with a tissue, resulting in chapped skin and soreness.

When cleansing after a BM, rather than or before you use wet wipes, maybe it’s best to use dry toilet paper, without wiping and allow the paper to soak up the liquid output that’s on your skin; and if necessary, follow this by blotting the area dry with toilet paper or ideally paper hand towel, the type use in public washrooms, (although the hand towels not suitable to soak up output; I speak from personal experience.)

 

When I first got my J pouch, I always used wet wipes; use to buy huge boxes to save money but as time passed, without a conscious decision, I just gradually stopped using them.; I don’t use barrier cream either 

Yeah, what you said makes sense. Wiping it over and over would definitely make it tender, especially since I wipe over 10x a day. Do you still do that same method with toilet paper???

Last edited by Lauren Of Emerald City

Yeah, what you said makes sense. Wiping it over and over would definitely make it tender, especially since I wipe over 10x a day. Do you still do that same method with toilet paper???

From time to time I do, only if my output is more liquidy than normal but more often than not, I don’t need to.
I only go 3 to 4 times per day, sometimes 5 and there’s hours and hours between bathroom visits.

@strange posted:

From time to time I do, only if my output is more liquidy than normal but more often than not, I don’t need to.
I only go 3 to 4 times per day, sometimes 5 and there’s hours and hours between bathroom visits.

Dang you are sooo lucky!!! Going over 10x a day is super annoying, especially for overnight trips! I wonder why we all do not go the same number of times since we all do not have a colon or rectum. I read only 30% of us go 9x and up a day- I am age 27 now, I hope it does not increase more as I get older. 

Dang you are sooo lucky!!! Going over 10x a day is super annoying, especially for overnight trips! I wonder why we all do not go the same number of times since we all do not have a colon or rectum. I read only 30% of us go 9x and up a day- I am age 27 now, I hope it does not increase more as I get older. 

I’ve no idea but I’ve often wondered whether it could be due to the amount of food consumed, thus the more that’s ate, then the more times we need to go.

Although currently, I weigh 230lbs and personally, I don’t think I eat that much and due to my height, technically, I’m not overweight.

Just prior to J pouch surgery, I weighed 217lbs; so even with the ileostomy, I was able to maintain my weight.

However, with the ileostomy; the  colostomy bag had to be emptIed every two to three hours without fail.

Since having my J pouch, it feels no different to before I was even diagnosed with Colitis but certain foods and drinks do make a difference, either increasing my frequency, its consistency and reducing the time between BMs, so I either totally avoid those foods or limit how often I eat them.

@strange posted:

I’ve no idea but I’ve often wondered whether it could be due to the amount of food consumed, thus the more that’s ate, then the more times we need to go.

Although currently, I weigh 230lbs and personally, I don’t think I eat that much and due to my height, technically, I’m not overweight.

Just prior to J pouch surgery, I weighed 217lbs; so even with the ileostomy, I was able to maintain my weight.

However, with the ileostomy; the  colostomy bag had to be emptIed every two to three hours without fail.

Since having my J pouch, it feels no different to before I was even diagnosed with Colitis but certain foods and drinks do make a difference, either increasing my frequency, its consistency and reducing the time between BMs, so I either totally avoid those foods or limit how often I eat them.

That is possibly right but I eat a low carb diet so its weird I go that many times and its more if eat more. It could be because I am vegetarian too though, that probably has a lot to do with it. I am 5'10', 130 pounds. My 2 stage pouch surgery made me drop significantly to 95 pounds, but that was almost 6 years ago.  The bag filled up all the time when I had a catheter inside. How tall are you??

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