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@Former Member posted:

I’m pleased you appreciate mine and the opinion of St Marks Hospital in regard to yearly rectal screening.

However, the eminent Surgeons at St Marks must know what they are talking about, otherwise the Hospital wouldn’t have gained such a reputation.

Their logic, which is based on medical knowledge and expertise, is that patients such as myself; are no more at risk of developing cancer than the general population; thus elective pouchoscopies are unnecessary.

Therefore, I much prefer to follow the recommendation of the Worlds leading Colorectal Hospital rather than the opinion of a web forum member; but thanks for your concern.

Thank-you for being so nice . I understand fully. And thank-you for seeing I was speaking because I care. I hope everything works out though. I see the J-pouch was invented at the hospital you mentioned by, "Sir Alan Parks" around 1978. Thank goodness for him!!! Because a ostomy failed me- I see he won quite a few awards too. I know the year but do you know what month he did it in???

I’ve been fortunate enough to find a bidet. It has been a life changer. A squirt bottle would work almost as well and clean white washcloths to dry your bottom. 

@Lauren Of Emerald City posted:

Thank-you for being so nice . I understand fully. And thank-you for seeing I was speaking because I care. I hope everything works out though. I see the J-pouch was invented at the hospital you mentioned by, "Sir Alan Parks" around 1978. Thank goodness for him!!! Because a ostomy failed me- I see he won quite a few awards too. I know the year but do you know what month he did it in???

I don’t know what month.

I believe, during 1976, Dr. Alan Parks combined three previously performed procedures into one and came up with the W Pouch; the outcome of which was first published in a medical journal during 1978.

Prof John Nicholls, also at St. Marks Hospital, continued to develop and perfect the procedure, which I assume transpired into what we now know as the J Pouch.

However, Dr. Rudolf Nissen performed some kind of Pouch surgery as early as the 1930’s,

Developments of such a procedure continued throughout the 1940’s, 50 and 60’s; with the creation of the the Kock Pouch by the late 1960’s.

@BarbieG posted:

I’ve been fortunate enough to find a bidet. It has been a life changer. A squirt bottle would work almost as well and clean white washcloths to dry your bottom. 

Ever since proctocolectomy, it hurts for me to use washcloths in that area for some reason.

@Former Member posted:

I don’t know what month.

I believe, during 1976, Dr. Alan Parks combined three previously performed procedures into one and came up with the W Pouch; the outcome of which was first published in a medical journal during 1978.

Prof John Nicholls, also at St. Marks Hospital, continued to develop and perfect the procedure, which I assume transpired into what we now know as the J Pouch.

However, Dr. Rudolf Nissen performed some kind of Pouch surgery as early as the 1930’s,

Developments of such a procedure continued throughout the 1940’s, 50 and 60’s; with the creation of the the Kock Pouch by the late 1960’s.

I never knew about John Nicholls, I only read that Sir Alan Parks invented the J-pouch in 1978. I see others have continued to work on it over the years too. Before it was called the j-pouch, it was called "Parks Pouch" I see Lol

It’s fascinating; painted onto the wall of a corridor to the Frederick Salmon Ward at St. Marks Hospital, is a brief history of the Hospital and its achievements; truly fascinating.

Another interesting fact.....  Charles Dickens, suffering from an anal fistula, was a patient of Frederick Salmon.

@Former Member posted:

It’s fascinating; painted onto the wall of a corridor to the Frederick Salmon Ward at St. Marks Hospital, is a brief history of the Hospital and its achievements; truly fascinating.

Wow! All three doctors are painted onto the wall??? I so got to go there someday! I found it! It looks like it was done June 29th- first time ever!!! Click on it and check it out let me know what you think???

https://www.atlantichc.com/st-...ery-at-the-hospital/

@Former Member posted:

Another interesting fact.....  Charles Dickens, suffering from an anal fistula, was a patient of Frederick Salmon.

I loved his movie and book! "A Christmas Carol". Maybe he had Crohn's disease.

@Lauren Of Emerald City posted:

Wow! All three doctors are painted onto the wall??? I so got to go there someday! I found it! It looks like it was done June 29th- first time ever!!! Click on it and check it out let me know what you think???

https://www.atlantichc.com/st-...ery-at-the-hospital/

No, not paintings of the Doctors but a timeline of the History of St. Marks, with illustrations depicting various achievements; there’s a portrait of Frederick Salmon.

@Former Member posted:

No, not paintings of the Doctors but a timeline of the History of St. Marks, with illustrations depicting various achievements; there’s a portrait of Frederick Salmon.

Soooo COOOL!!! Did you check out that website??? It has the month and day of the first J-pouch surgery from Sir Alan Parks

@Lauren Of Emerald City posted:

Soooo COOOL!!! Did you check out that website??? It has the month and day of the first J-pouch surgery from Sir Alan Parks

Yeah, I did thanks. 
  Although I’m sure the Parks’ Pouch was first performed earlier than 1978.
I believe the reference to 1978 is when the procedure and the associated study was shared with the medical profession  within a medical journal.

  I’ve been searching the internet to find the original medical article I read when I first became aware of the J pouch but although it’s such a phenomenal procedure, which has not only transformed surgical practice but also the lives of those suffering from UC; there appears to be very little available; and what I do find, appears to be reworkings of the same paper.

I found this Table; an extract from The British Medical Journal, which seems to suggest the first patient to receive a Parks’ Pouch was on the 9 July 1976.

The link below opens as a PDF and the Table is shown at the top of page 3

It appears to be the original Case Study which was first published in The British Medical Journal on the 8 July 1978.

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/2/6130/85.full.pdf

Proctocolectomy without ileostomy for ulcerative colitis A G PARKS, R J NICHOLLS

Although, this isn’t the article I found years ago.

@Former Member posted:

Yeah, I did thanks. 
  Although I’m sure the Parks’ Pouch was first performed earlier than 1978.
I believe the reference to 1978 is when the procedure and the associated study was shared with the medical profession  within a medical journal.

  I’ve been searching the internet to find the original medical article I read when I first became aware of the J pouch but although it’s such a phenomenal procedure, which has not only transformed surgical practice but also the lives of those suffering from UC; there appears to be very little available; and what I do find, appears to be reworkings of the same paper.

More than likely you are right. I am sure they had to do tests to make sure it would work before they did it at the St. Mark Hospital. Too bad we do not know much about it before 1978. He changed the lives of people and went down into history!

@Former Member posted:

I found this Table; an extract from The British Medical Journal, which seems to suggest the first patient to receive a Parks’ Pouch was on the 9 July 1976.

The link below opens as a PDF and the Table is shown at the top of page 3

It appears to be the original Case Study which was first published in The British Medical Journal on the 8 July 1978.

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/2/6130/85.full.pdf

Proctocolectomy without ileostomy for ulcerative colitis A G PARKS, R J NICHOLLS

Although, this isn’t the article I found years ago.

WOW! Its amazing how you found that article!!! You must have dug and dug to find that article! That is pretty amazing how you found that. I wonder where he did it at? He probably did it there first and then it got approved for the hospital permanently. Did you have to pay anything for your surgery or was it all free for you since you are in the UK?

@Lauren Of Emerald City posted:

WOW! Its amazing how you found that article!!! You must have dug and dug to find that article! That is pretty amazing how you found that. I wonder where he did it at? He probably did it there first and then it got approved for the hospital permanently. Did you have to pay anything for your surgery or was it all free for you since you are in the UK?

Suppose, to some extent I searched and searched but I only have a smartphone.

The first procedure and case study was carried out at St. Marks during 1976; the additional procedures and studies mentioned within the report state 1977.

Dr Alan Parks, was appointed  Consultant Surgeon at St. Mark’s Hospital from 1959 and until his death during 1982 at the age of 62.

Yeah, all my care, treatment, emergency admissions into Hospital by Ambulance ,stoma appliance, supplies, medication and surgery, all provide by the UK’s magnificent NHS; not technically free as such, as we all pay for it in Taxes and National Insurance Payments but we don’t need Medical Insurance or insurance approval before a procedure can proceed.

@Former Member posted:

Suppose, to some extent I searched and searched but I only have an iPhone.

The first procedure and case study was carried out at St. Marks during 1976; the additional procedures and studies mentioned within the report state 1977.

Dr Alan Parks, was appointed  Consultant Surgeon at St. Mark’s Hospital from 1959 and until his death during 1982 at the age of 62.

Yeah, all my care, treatment, emergency admissions into Hospital by Ambulance ,stoma appliance, supplies, medication and surgery, all provide by the UK’s magnificent NHS; not technically free as such, as we all pay for it in Taxes and National Insurance Payments but we don’t need Medical Insurance or insurance approval before a procedure can proceed.

Are you sure it was 1976? That other article I found said they celebrated the 40th anniversary of the first procedure on June 29th, 2018? If it was in 1976 at St Mark's hospital, why did they celebrate the 40th anniversary in 2018???

@Lauren Of Emerald City posted:

Are you sure it was 1976? That other article I found said they celebrated the 40th anniversary of the first procedure on June 29th, 2018? If it was in 1976 at St Mark's hospital, why did they celebrate the 40th anniversary in 2018???

Cos they got it wrong.

I’ve not read the full article but it appears to be the Case Study of the procedure, which first appeared in the The British Medical Journal in July 1978,

At the top of page 3 of the PDF, there’s a Chart/Table which list patients which took part in the Case Study; Patient 1 it states an operation date of  9 July 1976 and other patients having their operation during 1977.

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/2/6130/85.full.pdf

Unless, 1978 is when St. Marks began performing the procedure as an alternative to an ileostomy.

Mistakes get made in news articles all the time. I never take anything I read to the bank.  In the 24 hour news cycle it's who gets the story published that counts, and often the facts must be damned.   I once saw a historical piece on UConn's basketball team which had a blatant factual error in it left up for weeks on CBS's website, with no correction ever being made.  I kept checking back to see if the correction would be made and it never was. 

On another note, I read the New Haven Register daily and it's stunning to me the amount of corrections they have to print on a daily basis. 

On yet another note, a reporter for another local publication once wrote an article on a foreclosure sale I did, which was newsworthy only because 2 houses on the same sleepy street in the Morris Cove section of New Haven were being auctioned on the same day at the same time, almost across the street from each other.  That and it was a slow news day. I was a bit more friendly and talkative with the reporter than the Committee who was assigned to do the other auction. I explained to the reporter that I would file a report with the Court on the result of the auction and that it was subject to Court approval (which does not happen until some weeks later).  However, the story he published the next day made it sound like it was a done deal then and there, something a few knowledgeable readers excoriated him on in the comments section to his article.  These mistakes happen because nobody edits worth a damn, the stories are rushed to print, and quite frankly the dude did not take very good notes when he interviewed me, because I told him the sale was subject to Court approval, and he did not report it.

@Kangaroo posted:

I use baby wipes and they need to be thrown out. I prefer baby wipes because they are much cheaper, more durable and come in a larger quantity than the flushable wipes. The only drawback is they can't be flushed.

Definitely I use all natural baby wipes after I have used toilet paper. But I thought it was just to have a better clean also because I noticed that there no way around the splashing bm on your other more sensitive areas. Hence the need to keep it as clean as possible.

OMG this dang gone virus has made it hard as all get out to get toilet paper, wipes, and sad to say adult  pullups  😞