Has anybody here tried the carnivore diet with a j-pouch? If so, do/did you take fiber supplements or do anything else a non-pouch person would do?

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The biggest error that I see folks make here is overconfidence that the diet they prefer (or that works better for them) is what will be best for anyone else. Within The bounds of basic nutritional reasonableness I suggest you try what you like and see if it works for you. I will note that some fad diets are not within the bounds of basic nutritional reasonableness...

@JL88s posted:

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!  Plant based diet best.  give it 30 days and be amazed!

I'm glad that works for you. Definitely not for me.

I agree with Scott 100%...not everything that works for one person will work or another...it is both nature (your essential biological history and your origins= most Asiatics do not digest lactose at all...other origins have different sensibilities or complete exclusions).

Add to that 'nuture' meaning what you were raised with and you have a recipe for 1000 different dietary needs. 

A plant-based diet could work for some people if you balance out your protein charge and you verify your vitamin charge regularly...but the human race is not a race of vegetarians or vegans...we are inherently omnivore...meaning we eat a variety of both vegetables and meats...

So, you need to find the diet that works for you and not anyone else. 

As Scott said, Fad diets and social movements might be tempting for some but not reasonable for everyone.

Try keeping a food diary...introduce new foods 'on their own' a little at a time and see how they react in your guts...then integrate them into your diet.

As for a full protein diet...it can lead to nutritional problems...so you would require supplements to help balance things out. 

Sharon 

@JL88s posted:

So you tried it and it didn't work for you?

Yes, and my wife tried vegetarian for about a year and ended up in the hospital over it. Not only did she gain weight and have a lot of inflammation, she had less energy and didn't feel well. When she switched to keto that all went away and since switching to full carnivore, she's never felt better or been healthier. She dropped 60 lbs without any difficulty, all her inflammation went away, and she feels great.

@skn69 posted:

I agree with Scott 100%...not everything that works for one person will work or another...it is both nature (your essential biological history and your origins= most Asiatics do not digest lactose at all...other origins have different sensibilities or complete exclusions).

Add to that 'nuture' meaning what you were raised with and you have a recipe for 1000 different dietary needs. 

A plant-based diet could work for some people if you balance out your protein charge and you verify your vitamin charge regularly...but the human race is not a race of vegetarians or vegans...we are inherently omnivore...meaning we eat a variety of both vegetables and meats...

So, you need to find the diet that works for you and not anyone else. 

As Scott said, Fad diets and social movements might be tempting for some but not reasonable for everyone.

Try keeping a food diary...introduce new foods 'on their own' a little at a time and see how they react in your guts...then integrate them into your diet.

As for a full protein diet...it can lead to nutritional problems...so you would require supplements to help balance things out. 

Sharon 

Yep evolution hasn't helped vegetarians or vegans. We evolved as meat eaters, but the environment is fighting back, meat production can't / won't keep up with demand, worlds growing population. So in the future meat protein will be replaced by bug protein, locust and scorpion etc. A supermarket in the UK started selling smoky barbecue-flavoured crickets.  

There may, one day, be a full-blown market for bug protein (at least we will no longer need pest control) but that time is not within our lifetime...or at least mine...here is Europe we prefer quality over quantity and eat meat rarely...a couple of times/month...

For now, I am what they call here, flexitarian...I eat a variety of foods, am often vegetarian or add fish...but when I find meat, good meat, I eat it.

I think that we need the micronutrients that come from a large variety of foods...to keep healthy...and I do my best. We need, I repeat, to find what works best for each of us...

By the way, I make a huge pot of vegetable soup every week...about a 1/2 gallon of it...blend it and eat it throughout the week...that is usually my main meal...I just clear out the bottom of the vegetable drawer weekly and sauté and cook it all...my way of fighting waste and keeping healthy!

Sharon

 

I have had the pouch for 18 years and have tried a lot of different things that usually work for only a short period of time. My latest experiment is a gluten-free diet. Two months in and things are looking good. I also found that a short dosage of antibiotics (3 days) works when I have pouchitis.

I have tried it and love it for the most part. Personally, I need to have a few carbs (berries or sweet potato) or things gets very runny. My sleep is much better, my energy is up and my mind is more clear cutting down on the carbs and increasing the fat.  I also have bronchiectasis from the colitis and this has helped reduce the amount of coughing and drastically reduced the amount of phlegm I cough up each day. It ends up being more of a keto(ish) diet and I don’t plan on changing things because it’s really worked for me. 

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