Cats, thank you. But the big issue is the fistulia. As of now no one knows if it is still there. And no one where it is. Unusual situation. You can see the fistulia on a fistulia gram but they can't see exactly where it goes in the pouch. Most of these will connect at a seem line which is the. It's likely place for a small tear. Not so simple with Jeff. they think that it is in the back of the pouch through the intestine, like a puncture wound. Nothing about any of this has been easy.