Thanks Richard. I have had an end ostomy when I had a partial colon resection. It was small and I liked it not so protruding. When I say I liked it, it was naturally hard to get used to pooping out of your abdomen, finding decent appliance and I cried a lot. I only realized how great it was when the J-pouch was made and had the dreadful loop ileostomy. It was huge, high and leaked like a sieve at the bottom opening so I had yeast rash that got under the wafer no matter what was tried. An end ileostomy will be fine. My issues are many with Jpouch. I am not quite at surgery yet. My surgeon is arranging a functional MRI defecography to evaluate the problem better, especially with regards the leakage day and night. He also set me up with pelvic floor physio to see if a lot of the problems lie there. That is set for March. MRI is on hold because of Covid. If I do go on to need a permanent ileostomy I will be okay. I am familiar and getting rid of burning bum and fissures and frequency and leakage would be refreshing. I am 65 and assume that my tissues are not as strong as when I was a younger woman. I am a rambler too! Apologies for that. Thanks again.