im 8 days post take down and i've only accomplished this like, twice, and was because my pouch didn't feel it had anything in, otherwise everytime i pee something comes out and is very annoying because I pee a lot but but I don't feel the urge to go to empty my pouch so much. And is so hard to isolate, im worried ill never be able. Maybe i'll try one of those pee funnels for women, since I agree that men seem to have it easier standing up.